What to Wear When Speaking on Stage or Camera
I’m James Taylor, and you’re listening to the SpeakersU Podcast, a show for aspiring and professional speakers.
Kay has been helping people refine their style for nearly 2 decades and worked with some amazing personalities along the way, like actors Lily James, Elizabeth Debicki, RizAhmet, Ben Whishaw, F1 racing driver Jenson Button, and Musician Will Young. She founded Mind Over Fashion 18 months ago. Her main priority is to tune into her client’s needs and to gently elevate their existing style, to make them feel comfortable and presentable, according to their brand and lifestyle. Her approach is candid and compassionate.
- How do I dress for my brand?
- Should I wear my brand color?
- Should I wear a bright color when I speak to stand out?
- How do I put an outfit together?
-What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
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What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Maria Franzoni 1:01
Hello, hello. Hello, hello. Hello, Kate. It’s wonderful to have you here. So Kay, and I, as you said, James have been working together for over a year actually, I realized this over a year. But we only met him but she’s been working with me virtually. We met in person on Friday. And I was super prepared for my wardrobe session with Kay, I had emptied my wardrobe of stuff. And she still emptied it further. And but I have more things to wear. And I actually have a section now for online virtual and I’m wearing one of the tops that were approved. -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Kay Korsh 1:39
matched together with James today.
Maria Franzoni 1:41
I know, I know. I know. So let’s get cracking. So James, where do you want to start? Well,
James Taylor 1:48
so this is a fascinating talk. I feel like I’m ever going to talk a little bit less than it was last week. I talked a lot last week. So, Maria, I’m gonna have you kind of really be the guide for our audience this week, because I told my wife what the topic was this week, and my wife really watches the shows. But she said, I’m gonna watch this one because of the topic that we’re covering with K. So I K, we’re talking about how to look at a dress for speaking success. So first of all, I would love a little bit more about your kind of your background and then talk about how can we dress for our brands.
Dress for your brand
Kay Korsh 2:24
So the background is so as you said, I’ve been dressing celebrities for editorials. And I’ve been working with brands. And I just always felt the high fashion thing is superficial and kind of not exactly where I want to end up and they wanted to help real people. So that’s why I started mind over fashion. And the name helps has a mind in it. Because I’m always interested in how our minds work and why we do things the way we do them. And yeah, so when I talk to my clients about how they can dress for the industry, and today we obviously talk to speakers, mainly, I came up with this acronym CEO, and I’ll show you I don’t actually know if it’s gonna be a mirror image when I write. Yeah, I think I’m gonna have to you see if I can No, no, -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Maria Franzoni 3:31
no, no, I see. Now it’s backward for us. Yeah, that’s backward. Yes. Process backward. Is this correct? That’s correct. Yeah. Okay. It’s just technology.
Kay Korsh 3:45
Oh, see? Oh, oh. So C stands for comfort. And that’s where I talk about you. So I talk about your physical comfort and your emotional comfort. And he is one, we take it out into the world. And we talk about Eastern for equal. So it’s, um, does your style equal to your store and your brand? Is it aligned with your store and your brand, so that others understand you as well? And then all stand for occasions? And that’s where we talk about different occasions in which you have to speak. So when I talk about comfort things, which I ask people is like, what kind of fabrics do you like? Do you like natural fibers? Or do you like synthetic fabrics? Have you got any allergies? If you’ve got allergies, probably natural fibers are better for you. Do you like ironing or dry cleaning? Yeah, Maria is shaking her head and I know. So maybe, in that case, it’s better to have Synthetic mixing it so it doesn’t crease as much. So it’s easier to look after you don’t have to spend as much time. And also actually, you don’t have to worry when you speak, especially, you know, those like cleaning things when you sit down and then you stand up. And then if you’re presenting full length, that’s not the best idea, probably. And what else? Yeah, so these are things which I asked generally when we talk about physical comfort, and emotional comfort is what kind of dress are you? Do you dress for practical reasons? Or do you express yourself through clothes? So you know, if you are more flamboyant, more go in your, you can still come up with your style, and it’s, it can still work. So both of these things can work, but you kind of need to bring to your conscious what it is. So this is comfort. And then when I talk about equal, so when your style equals your story and your brand. I asked a question, what train of thought does your audience have when they look at you and when they listen to you? So for example, Tom Morley, who you had a couple of weeks ago. And, Maria, I don’t know if you can put up a technical difficulty before so I couldn’t share my screen. We have a go. Let’s see, just in case, if anybody’s forgotten. Tom, -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
James Taylor 6:31
Tom has a very identifiable style as well. Yeah.
Kay Korsh 6:34
So if you haven’t watched this show with Tom, you have to go back and watch it because I started watching it, just to check it out. And then the dog watching the whole thing, and I thought it was hilarious. But talking about Tom, so he, when I listen to Tom or somebody would introduce him, for example, before his speech, they would probably say things like that he is a drama, he is a rock musician. And when I look at Tom, I see all of those things. So I see the dreadlocks, I see the wings on his jacket. So he is a very clear, I have complete connection between what I see and what I hear. So this is what I mean when I talk about this train of thought and connection. So just always double checking, if the so there is no disconnect between the way you look and what people expect of you. So there’s
James Taylor 7:32
an alignment there, it feels like there’s an integrity, the whole package kind of hangs together.
Kay Korsh 7:37
Yeah, so all of these things I talk about is basically, the main message is to close the time gap between somebody looking at you and listening to the message you’re delivering. So it’s basically a use style as a tool. As one of the tools in your toolbox. Like the other tools you use in your speech, this is one of the tools to help you deliver your speech and for people to digest it and absorb it. So yeah, so it will help people if they if their brain catches up faster when they see you and when they hear you. And then all occasion is when we look at different audiences you speak for. Maria, by the way, you can probably stop sharing even though I’m sorry, I’m trying, I’m trying.
Maria Franzoni 8:28
And that all goes to pot again. There you go. You’re back. Thank you. -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Kay Korsh 8:32
Yeah, so different occasions. So fake, say, for example, it would be corporate world and like sporty people or use different things like this, I always say don’t try to have like three, four completely different wardrobes, because it will just be overwhelming. Instead, what you can do is, you can always ask the event organizers, if there is a dress code, if there is no strict dress code, maybe ask some questions, what other people are likely to wear, what kind of audience is going to be and you can just slightly tweak what you wear just to be respectful. But you still want to stay true to yourself and to your story. So you’ve come in to talk about your world here. So you have your visual image as part of that story part of that world. So for example, in Toms’s case, he could, if he wanted to tone it down, he could put his dreadlocks in a ponytail, and maybe he could wear a plain black jacket but he could still have the color standing up. And that way he still has part of his personality coming through or what I noticed, for example with you, James, when you deliver your podcasts, you are just wearing a black t-shirt and you’re sitting on the sofa. So you have those different Aren’t islands of your style formula depending on what you do? So people it also is like a routine. Yes. So people know what to expect. So it makes it easier for people to absorb. And so when you’re in it in your T-shirt on a sofa, you’re more approachable, more relaxed. Yeah.
James Taylor 10:21
Yep. If we even have a Brian, here we have a Brand Guide, which actually sets out my kind of outfits, almost, you know, so and so. If you look at any of the photography that I do, there’s, there’s usually, there are usually three types, as you mentioned, is the black and white, which is supposed to be because there’s a broader audience one for things I’m filming for because it’s YouTube. There are things like this, which is kind of in the middle. And then when I present on stage, I’m using my Britishness a lot so I’ll go for you know, Savile Row suits more like more traditional a lot because not because the two reasons one, is it, how it makes me feel because you can a spoke about this, like comfort, like some people that would be like really uncomfortable to wear that kind of thing on stage. For me, that feels really comfortable. And it gives a little bit of armor. Yeah, and me as well as because I’m using a little bit of a defensive thing. But also it kind of ties in with my personal brand, which is around the tailoring thing as well so so that you can, you can have fun with it. So, Maria, I would love to know, what advice that did. Kate give you when you met up, I’ve got -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Maria Franzoni 11:31
my goodness, I had lots of advice was really fascinating. When you listen to Kay, we’re going off peace with our questions, Kay, because it’s just too much too exciting as a topic. What was really fascinating is that Kay really studied you before you even met her. So she did an audit an online audit of me. And she was telling me all sorts of things about myself that I didn’t know, she advised, I’ve got to get some new glasses, but she advised me that this was the better shape of the ones that I already had. she advised me on makeup, I changed my makeup because of Kay. And my man said to me, what have you done? You look younger, and I’m actually wearing less makeup than I used to. But it’s different colors. Yeah, so much you could help me with your makeup to James.
James Taylor 12:09
I’m not wearing any makeup today cuz I knew that I was coming on this. So I thought, Okay, I’m gonna get a little bit of feedback as well.
Maria Franzoni 12:16
Brilliant. And also, she helped me with my neck clients, because I was told because I’m okay. We’re going streaming live, but people who know me, I’m quite large in the bus department. So I was always told to wear a lower v so that you look slimmer, you see, but Kay was saying no, no, no, you need you actually need a higher neckline. And it’s much more flattering for you to have a higher and I didn’t anyway, but let’s just there’s a couple of messages people who are your fans, Kay, who are listening in so I know that Thomas Schlichting recently had a session with you. Tom’s a pretty cool-looking guy actually already, I think I’m sure you didn’t have too much to do there. And he had a personal session. And then Penny Pullin had a session, she needed a session because she shrank. She literally shrunk before our eyes looking fabulous. So she had a wardrobe sorted out. And she’s just done a virtual keynote for hundreds of people to rave reviews in a bright orange jacket you chose for her not loved. But I needed like I loved working with. They’re all wonderful people. But I learned what I needed you desperately because I’ve actually gone up a size in Corona. And the first thing Cayce said to me was to take all the stuff that doesn’t fit out, you’d have to throw it out but remove it. So that now when you go to your wardrobe, everything you have fits and works and you don’t feel bad. So let’s see. Anyway, let’s come back to our questions. So So you’re saying should we dress for our brands, then should we wear our brand colors? Or do we dress for our brand meaning? -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Kay Korsh 13:43
So when we talk about colors, the first thing always which we need to think about does this color work for my complexion? And then you think about how to incorporate it with your brand colors. So where do you have your brand colors, it’s normally it can be a book which just came out it can be your home page on your website. So if you, for example, know that you’re doing a photoshoot where you’re going to use the pictures for your website or your book cover first thing okay which colors work for me for my complexion and then think do which colors will work next to the color on my homepage or next to the color in my book? Yes. So for example James the homepage again that’s it. Yeah, -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Maria Franzoni 14:38
let me share but bear with me because it’s all a bit clunky talk while you’re trying so we’re gonna get Tom again while I scroll down. Here we go.
Kay Korsh 14:47
Yeah. So this is a really good example. So, James, you are using this bright red as the kind of the main color which comes through this car. I would drown you, you would not look good if you were wearing that particular color. But what you did, you chose this very, very pale pink in your tie and in your pocket square, which supports, I don’t know whether you did it consciously or subconsciously, but it supports this red car. So it works all together. Yeah. And, or, normally, a good way of thinking about that is that the opposite colors work well. So if you have a color wheel, which actually I was going to bring in on, I forgot, but on color, we’ll just look at opposite colors, you can just google color will, lots of pictures will come up, and just look at the opposite color. So like colors, which are in the triangle next to each other. But normally, if you work, obviously with the photographer for a photoshoot with the stylist, normally, people who do lots of imagery as their job, they would know it’s going to be easy for them to help you with that. So this is basically my main answer. But I did have quiet clients in the past where for example, she would have purple as her brand color, and then she would just wear purple. And I do not recommend this because it also becomes quite boring. Like, say, even if in the case that purple does work. It is just boring. to just use the same color. Like, again, if you think about when you speak in you prepare your speech, you use different tools, like metaphors, stories, maybe bring in some, you know, things so you’re gonna use props. So you’re trying to make it as colorful and as interesting and interactive as possible. So do the same with your wardrobe.
James Taylor 16:57
But I noticed on your website, and I can see you just now maybe if we bring back the key as much as I love, I love looking at pictures of myself, I’d much rather look at your Maria Kay, just now. So, Kate, you’ve got read here, I should let my wife and I’m noticing I looked on your website, you’re using a lot of kind of autumnal colors, greens brands, like country calls. So that was that that that combination that kind of works pretty well, if you’re kind of lighter-skinned and red here. -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Kay Korsh 17:25
Well, it works for me, it doesn’t mean it will work for all women or all people with red hair. Because it depends on your undertone. Like that’s getting technical here,
James Taylor 17:39
but tell me about what, what is the undertone.
What is an undertone?
Kay Korsh 17:42
So the majority of people have either a warm undertone or a cool undertone. And if I’m just looking at both of you, both of you have a cool undertone. I can’t always say it straight away, but because I saw a few pictures of you, James and I obviously so Maria’s wardrobe. So I know. For me, if I wear a cool color, it just kills me. And actually, Maria, there’s another picture which you can bring up, which has the one with you on. -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Maria Franzoni 18:16
I was one with me on Okie Kochi
Kay Korsh 18:19
was a really good example of like, how, how many variations of one color so say for example, if your brand color is if your brand logo is green, right? And you’re like, Okay, so they were green, but then what kind of green you’re gonna wear because as you can see on the side, all of these are green, but they’re so different. So Maria, for example, works really well in the turquoise, light main color, so they’re kind of bright and light. But if you look at me, I would not look good and mint and turquoise at all. So for me muted and the warm greens, so like maybe like more see or only like what I’m wearing today, those work much better. So, again, that kind of brings us to the point are should they wear the same color as my brand color? Probably like there is more to it, basically. -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
James Taylor 19:18
Yeah. And so something I’m I’m always wondered about is like today I’m wearing this color. Here it ties in very well Maria, loose, loose, good, we are
Maria Franzoni 19:28
James Taylor 19:29
Yeah, and I’m almost always a little bit jealous of my Female Speaker friends because they get to be much more. I feel like adventure they can do more in some ways, which I know can be a pain, but it’s also for us guys. I always feel like we’re slightly more constricted. And especially like we’re doing a lot of presenting here. You know, it’s basically waist above. And so I can like find I just end up having to use like different pockets shirts, so So tell me k you know, like if I was to go out and walk in with a client and their corporate color Let’s say is, is yellow? And I say do my do I want to go and use their corporate color, like in my thing, or do I want to stay with maybe my corporate color? Like what is where should I be going? Should I be trying to serve the client, the customer? Or should I be trying to serve myself my own brand? -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Kay Korsh 20:19
First of all, think about what color suits you so yellow does not suit you this, this particular yellow because it’s very warm. So there is a, what you could try is like a lemony yellow, like very light sort of lemon, it could work potentially. Another thing that yellow and blue really reminds me of the flag of Ukraine. So the second my first association
James Taylor 20:46
or Ryanair, as well. Yeah,
Kay Korsh 20:49
yeah. But talking about, like, so I think this looks good. What you have now, I think your client is not gonna be like, Oh, he respects us, he’s wearing our corporate color. I really don’t think that’s gonna be on their mind at all. So but subconsciously, if you wear that yellow somewhere not aware of that, there will be some sort of block for them. So yeah, I think you’re doing great with what I can see
James Taylor 21:25
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Maria Franzoni 22:37
is interesting because I’ve never sort of followed fashion followed style. I’ve always tried to follow what I thought suited me. But what I thought suited me wasn’t necessarily the right thing to be wearing. Certainly, as you get a bit older, you need to sort of be you know, a dress a bit differently. So Kay has moved me away from some of my favorite shapes, actually. And she’s also trying to move me away from my dark colors. But you she allows me to wear my dark colors as long as I’ve got one of my flattering colors with it. So it’s not so bad. I don’t have to throw everything out. But what was really interesting to me with the experience, and I’m sure Penny will agree she had the same experience is how many things that I would never have put together. The K put together that I didn’t see and if that I’m waiting for the photos actually case I can stick them in my wardrobe looking forward to those. But also I bought a jacket, I’ve gone I’ve digressed. I bought a jacket that I loved online and I said okay, look, I’ve got this jacket, and I’ve never worn it. I don’t know how to wear it. And I’m thinking of giving it away. And you got very excited because you said Oh, it’s very Vivienne Westwood. And she put a suit she put an outfit together for me. And I went downstairs showed my man and he said wow, and it was stuff I had. It was just I just didn’t know how I didn’t know how to combine it. What was the question? -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
James Taylor 23:57
The process if you work with you obviously care you work with Maria on kind of colors right and finding the right palette tonal palette for her when it came to like shapes and outfits and items and how you put them together and how many things you should have in that kind of wardrobe. The kid’s TED talks to the process.
Kay Korsh 24:16
Yeah, so without going into shapes because that’s more individual per person. So that’s a longer conversation. But the main thing, especially for people who need to present either online or in person, hopefully, is I normally make this connection between building a sentence and building an outfit. When you are building your sentence you are using punctuation to help people understand the sentence faster to digest it faster so they can start thinking about it. And you’ve got your main noun and then you’ve got the adjective which supports that noun. So These are like different elements. And that’s the same with what I’m trying to explain with an outfit. So for example, as, as one of the main rules is used as few accents per outfit as possible. Because the more you use more of these accents, use more details you use, it becomes kind of overwhelming. So you jumper like some, when somebody is looking at you, they start jumping from one thing to another.
James Taylor 25:32
So do you say accent is that mean item? Like a big piece of jewelry, or pocket square or something that’s an accent?
Kay Korsh 25:40
Yeah. Well, generally, to help you understand this accent is something when you squint, that’s what comes up for you. So if you squint, so if I squint and look at you, I see a white shirt, and I see the pink pocket square. Yeah. So for example, today, I’m wearing just one plain t shirt. Also on online, you’ve got to consider the background, I normally prefer just normal live backgrounds, because I’m kind of inviting people in my own world. So you know, so you’ve got one accent there, you’ve got the plant. So I, you know, it’s enough just to have this shirt, but I actually saw brought some props. So I’m going to show you how it could pan out. So say, for example, I was like, ah, but you know, I really want to make it more interesting. So I want to add a necklace, you know, so, I would be like, okay, so I’m gonna put a necklace on as well. So, hmm, that still works. Because you know, the colors are really nice and everything. So I’ve got another thing and then I would be like, Ah, you know what, I’m in the creative industry with it. And you know, I’ve got this red curly hair, how about if I put this you know, headband on, like in the 70s or something, and then that adds to it as well. So there’s another element for you to see. And then I will be like, I also want to wear these are earrings, the know if you can see now? Yeah. Yeah. So I actually my holes grew. But okay, so before I take it off, like, your, what’s your expression? So what’s your feeling like? Now you kind of have to jump from one thing to another. You’re making me What? -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Maria Franzoni 27:31
I don’t, I don’t like that. I don’t like that. Yeah.
Kay Korsh 27:33
So you know what I mean, the more elements you’ve got in your outfit, you kind of the viewer has to like jump over the hurdles and kind of get with the brain to get to what you’re talking about. So I would always go less rather than more. And again, especially on screen, just something very simple to have is enough. So
James Taylor 28:07
in terms of like this certain designer I mean, you’re a nice London, you have some East London’s like traditionally is the place where loads of designers came into you’ve got all those really cool shortages, all those kind of cool areas around there as well. Is it worth like actually just trying to find a designer that you feel that that you can kind of you feel that you have a there’s a sympathy with your brand and their brand I’m just thinking in terms of there’s a great speaker in Boston in America called Tamsen Webster? And she just found that Diane Von Furstenberg that is that’s her girl. Like everything that she wears is Diane Von Furstenberg seems to work. So, you know, if we were trying to simplify things for ourselves, is it worth like, just trying to find a designer that we can work for? Or is it more complicated than that?
Kay Korsh 28:57
It’s definitely worth finding your brands because each brand has its own cut. So Maria, actually that would be discussed with Maria, she found her brand, which works the card works really well. And she likes the styles. So I think each of us has the well not all of us, but like, I don’t know, like I’ve got a couple of my favorite brands, which I really like you know, so like this one, it’s like very natural fiber. And I love the texture, you know, so that works for me. So I think that comes with experience. So when you start looking at the other things I was talking about, then you go and try brands and then hopefully you find a brand where you’re happy with the cut. But one other thing which I wanted to say about cuts actually is that we all have different shapes. So and it doesn’t matter if we shopper, high-end designer, so high street, there is a big chance that you’ve got two outer things. So like maybe make the trousers shorter or cinch in the waist, or the sleeve shorter. So when you put your budget aside for clothes, just take it as a given as a norm that you are going to have to alter some things rather than as a luxury. Because even I think with your favorite designers, you might have to do that, anyway. -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Maria Franzoni 30:35
Yeah, really good at really good advice, right? Yeah. And so you had a couple of other images, and we’ve gone off-piste on the questions. What did you want to show the images and talk about them? Yeah, so there is a let me do Misha. Hang on, bear with me. Technical. Okay.
Kay Korsh 30:56
Oh, yeah. So this was talking about the accents in the outfit. So you’ve done it really well. So the first week you had your darker background, so you had your black t-shirt and darker blazer. And then you have your accent as a pocket square. So you’ve got your one accent, and that works really well. And then the next week, you will, okay, I want to wear a white shirt. So what sort of pocket square do you match to the pocket square with the blazer. So that way, it’s very minimal. You’ve got your one accent, and that also works. Change it. And it still works when you have to, you know, like it’s not you’re not going overboard. But I’m just saying more you have heard that people have to work like this person on the left where they have different patterns on the tie and different patterns on the pocket square. My eyes keep jumping from one to another. So I’d rather he just had one of those two things. Yeah, super. But sorry, gone. -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
James Taylor 32:10
No, I was gonna say that on that question. So I’m seeing kind of those shots there. Like one is like the T-shirt really cheap, relatively cheap shirt, not cheap. Because it’s like made in like a Savile Row. Can you talk about, like quality as well, as you know, because often when we think like clothing is can be a quite expensive game, you know, as we’re getting into clothing, and especially if you’re your speaker, you’re traveling all the time, you’re on planes, you’re throwing things into suitcases, things get easy to get crushed in terms of materials as well, what what’s your kind of take on terms of quality?
Kay Korsh 32:47
So in terms of what you said about traveling and throwing things in, in the suitcase, that’s when the practicality comes in, when you might want to use synthetic mixes, so it’s actually easier to look after them. But in terms of the price points, I think it’s important that you you will be able to see if the garment is very cheaply made. So I’d rather not go for the cheapest. And you don’t have to go for the most expensive you can still find something on the high street. Generally, when I shop. For people, it’s maybe like a higher point of high street just in between, you know, I don’t go for like big designer things. -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
James Taylor 33:36
You work with a lot of a kind of famous actors, musicians as well. I’m wondering like, Is there an opportunity here to also support new creative new designers new words, Milner’s or people that are making suits or dresses? Like how could we maybe find like young designers are just coming through in order to showcase their work and also support them as well? -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Kay Korsh 34:00
Well, there is a very good website called not just a label, and they have lots of new designers, actually international designers on that. And I generally I would say the important thing, the problem you might experience with very new designers is that they go for creativity versus quality. So you would see amazing, creative ideas, but the quality of implementation won’t be as good. It’s not always the case. Sometimes I see new, if it’s a new brand, which positions themselves as a commercial, new brand, they can have amazing quality and the art is fantastic. You know, the way the things are constructed, but if it’s, you know, like a creative like you know, amazing brain Tisch new creative designers which come out of London College of fashion and St. Martin’s San Martin’s, they, they quite often would have incredible creative designs, but they might not be as amazing in quality. And obviously not everybody, but that’s what I can tell from my, -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
James Taylor 35:20
you want something to be able to stand up, if you’re getting the plane off the plane like we’re traveling again, is not going to be completely destroyed by the second speech that you give.
Kay Korsh 35:29
And also just the stitching, you know, like sometimes it’s so important how things are just connected. Like when you look at something, like sometimes I’m going into detail now, but like,
James Taylor 35:42
we like the date, we like the detail here.
Kay Korsh 35:45
So for example, now there is a trend, and I’m talking more about High Street items. For women, they have those t-shirts where you would have front-end silk and back in the jersey, and probably one woman who are listening now can probably imagine what I’m talking about. And it’s great in theory, and sometimes it’s really well made. But sometimes I see there is so much disconnect between the fabric like the color is slightly off, like the station is slightly off, and then you just look at it. And it’s like, No, it’s just, it’s not good. So, obviously, I’m fast because I see clothes all the time. But that’s things to look out for is how is it made, you know, like you don’t have to go for the most expensive but just check the quality of the garment.
James Taylor 36:41
Very I’m interested to ask you what with Kay, how do you feel wearing this, the clothes now and the combinations? Was it due to your interview your confidence, your feeling? -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Having A Stylist
Maria Franzoni 36:51
Okay, so I’ve always wanted to have a stylist and I thought it would be ridiculously out of my price range. And actually, I met Kay and I thought this is doable. And in fact, she stopped me from making a lot of purchasing mistakes, I did have to purchase stuff to replenish my wardrobe. But I cannot get more. She’s reorganized my wardrobe for me. So now if I’m online, I’ve got my online clothes if I’m going out so I went out for dinner on Sunday, normally or haven’t got a thing to wear. Instead, it’s I’ve got my going out outfits. And then I’ve got my staying-at-home outfits because she doesn’t want anybody to see me in them apart from people at home. about you, but I didn’t want to throw them out because I am always comfortable over for my life to be comfortable. And then I’ve got you to know and is also the other thing I didn’t realize how badly certain clothes fitted me. I thought they fitted great and they were great because I was like the label is an important expensive label. And it’s a really beautifully made jacket. And yet Kay was saying to me, Look, it’s not the right cut for you, because it’s very baggy up here. And it’s the end. And so she changed some of the sorts. So I highly recommend that if you’ve not had a stylist, and you thought it was out of your reach, talk to Kay because also it’s tax-deductible as a speaker, the clothes aren’t the clothes. And the first time I thought about it was when I saw some of the celebrities we worked with who put it as part of their rider that they would have to bring their stylist, and that the client would have to buy them an outfit for the event, and the stylist would choose it. When you get to that level speakers out there. I think you should have that in your rider, you should have k in your rider organism. But before I was sort of rapidly running out of time in this article, I’ve got to share this last slide you’ve got, and then we’ve got to go to questions. Because I can’t but I just looked at it ahead. Okay, and I can’t, I cannot I can’t believe what I’ve just seen. So let me You have to explain yourself. What on earth is this slide about? -What To Wear On Stage When Speaking
Break It Up
Kay Korsh 38:44
So this is one of like another thing when you think about those comas in the sentence where you put them so break your outfit up in a few places as possible. And that applies more to speaking live when people can see you full length. And obviously these are very extreme examples. But look at this guy. So here How many times did he break? So I’m talking about horizontal lines? How many times did he break himself 1234 times and the lady the same like she’s got high boots. So it’s like one then this dress to bout three and then the shoulder line four. So, obviously very extreme. If I bring this to you can stop sharing Maria.
Maria Franzoni 39:35
Yeah, that’s what
James Taylor 39:37
that’s in my head. Now I’ve got that image of course, I’ve got to get rid of that somehow.
Maria Franzoni 39:44
Not to do James do not do that next week. The next we’re gonna see you in shorts.
Kay Korsh 39:50
I’ve got to watch that. Anyway, so when I bring this to real-life example, it could be for a guy if He decides to wear a suit. And then he wants to bring something extra special. So he decides to buy this amazing bout, like artisan crafted in fantastic hours, and he’s got matching shoes. So if he puts this bout on is gonna break it up and it’s gonna bring, again, like people will not know where to look. So if he were, if he’s wearing both shoes and the belt, they’re going to be like looking back and forth, back and forth. So just ditch the bout, keep the shoes and the shoes are going to be the focal point, the accent, which people are going to be talking about is going to be the conversation startup, right. And he that’s going to achieve what he wanted to achieve. So you don’t need the bout as well. And for women, a lot of the times what I see is one when a woman wears boots, hi boots, and then address which is a bit shorter. And then there is this bit of skin of the legs. And what happens is that you break it again in few places. So I’d much rather there was just maybe a pair of tights to tie it up tights of the same color with the boots. There is actually I don’t know we probably don’t have time. The on the green side. There is a very good example of Megan Marco I don’t know if you can quit very well.
Maria Franzoni 41:31
the suit was that I was looking at that suit. Was that her? I beautiful on the left too. So hang on. I’m sorry. So close your eyes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Oculus.
Kay Korsh 41:43
So what can we see that there is a one-call off the top and the and the skirt. And then she’s got skin color shoes. So if she had the black shoes on, it would be much heavier, she would be breaking her outfit in more places. But instead, it flows really nicely. So your eye is kind of like it’s a pleasure to look at.
Maria Franzoni 42:08
Okay, listen while we’re looking because we’re going to run out of time because I could talk to you all day. I’m going to stop sharing. And I’m going to share we have had one of our speakers has asked for feedback. He’s about to do his show reel. And he wants us to give him feedback on what he would normally wear. This is my hair Meza. Brilliant innovation speaker, let’s see if I can bring the photo up. And I don’t know if you’ll be able to see from this photo, but this is what he would normally wear. So what can you tell us?
Kay Korsh 42:37
I think it’s really good. I like that the shoes and the trousers are the same color. So we’ve gone through that flow going on. And then the blazer is a different color, but it works. So blue and black works fine. I think there it’s a big mess about combining navy and black. A lot of people think that it’s a no, but actually, you can do that. I guess it depends on the fabrics and more technicalities. But in general, you can combine navy and black. And then he’s just got a shirt on. So we have we can see that things fit him properly. He’s got the right sleeve length. He’s got the right, the shoulders in the right place. So what I’m looking at there are not many additional unnecessary lines there. So it all works together for me. Oh,
Maria Franzoni 43:29
he’s going to be so happy about that. That’s wonderful. I’m so super. And are there any other questions? Let me see if I can stop sharing. We’re happy to take them but I suppose. Gosh, I can’t believe we have run out of time. So we must share a tool of the week this week, James wasn’t we
Tool of the week
James Taylor 43:45
Yes, you have an amazing tool. I think everyone’s gonna wants to get this just now. Now, this is if you interest in understanding which colors suits you, kids got a free step by step guide to working out your own color palette, you just go to mind over fashion.com forward slash no dash your dash colors and as the British spelling of c o l o u Rs. Now if you can’t remember all of that, then just go to speaking business.tv and you’ll be able to get the links there but just head over to mind over fashion.com forward slash no dash your dash colors and you’re going to get there anything else you want to say key about that that that color palette they’re gonna be able to access
Kay Korsh 44:32
it’s a great tool because they give quite a few tips on how to work out your colors and it’s just try try try a few times and more you try you will see the difference.
James Taylor 44:46
And any other final tips from the UK as well.
Kay Korsh 44:51
Um, I can talk all day about things.
Maria Franzoni 44:57
Yeah, and if you can’t think of what to purchase For your partner, male or female, because you work with both men and women, as soon as we know, we’ll young and Jenson Button and organize a session with Kay because it’s a wonderful way to justify it gives you so much confidence. And I’ve got lots to wear, I can no longer say, and I’ve got a list because I got birth to come out. So I’ve got a list of things to deal with at the combined meters. I’ve also got a tool, James actually, which I did not share last week. And what is it? I will I’ve actually shared it before I shared it before, but I’m sharing it again because I’ve I stopped using it and I’ve started using it again. If you have background noise and interference going on and you are broadcasting, a great tool is crisp with a k.ai. And you can use it you can plug it into your wherever you’re broadcasting, you can use it as your microphone, and it stops background noises. So you will have missed my dog barking during the session. You’ll miss my doorbell going in this session. You won’t have heard any of that because I’d be I hope. I hope you haven’t heard any. No, no, no good. It’s amazing. I’ve been using my career. It’s really good. And again, there’s a link on the website. And James over to you to wrap things up.
James Taylor 46:09
Well, okay, thank you so much for coming on today. We’re going to have all the links over in the show notes at speaking business.tv. Thank you everyone for joining us today. We look forward to seeing you next week. I don’t know. Maria, who do we have on next week? Who’s I guess for next week? On tone? I
Maria Franzoni 46:25
don’t remember us it’s
James Taylor 46:27
gonna be a surprise. It’s a surprise to me as well. I remember to keep watching Hello. Look at the Hello magazine. Pick up some of those grants here magazines. You might just see Maria and her PAPR at outfit that case organized for like she’s walking up poodle along with cancer.
Maria Franzoni 46:44
He’s cotton to Lear actually. But yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you, everybody. So
James Taylor 46:51
you can subscribe to the SpeakersU Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts while you’re there. leave us a review. I really appreciate it. I’m James Taylor, and you’ve been listening to the SpeakersU Podcast.
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